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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trumpeachment (with David Frum)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.8 • 32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of Stay Tuned, “Trumpeachment,” Preet answers listener questions about bills of attainder, the use of multimedia in Trump’s Senate impeachment trial, and the Biden administration’s decision to ask for the resignations of 56 Trump-appointed U.S. Attorneys. Then, Preet is joined by David Frum, a Staff Writer at The Atlantic and a key voice in conservative politics. Frum and Preet discuss the utility of impeachment and the future of the Republican Party. In the Stay Tuned bonus, Frum discusses his dual Canadian-American citizenship and how 9/11 changed the way he thought about nationhood. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: cafe.com/stay-tuned/trumpeachment-with-david-frum/ Listen to the first three episodes of Doing Justice, Preet’s new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name. You can hear Preet’s incredible stories from his time as U.S. Attorney on Apple Podcasts (apple.co/doingjustice), Spotify (spoti.fi/3p9Xwja) or wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to Stay Tuned bonus content, become a member of CAFE Insider at: CAFE.com/Insider Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring analysis by Elie Honig, and features by CAFE staff: CAFE.com/brief And if you haven’t already, check out Elie Honig’s Third Degree, a daily pod that tells you everything you need to know about impeachment in under ten minutes: cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/ As always, tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is produced by CAFE Studios. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Editorial Producers: David Kurlander, Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:55.9

From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tune.

0:58.9

I'm Pete Barara. We have to begin by understanding he's not a fully rational political actor.

1:04.8

And what people do is they insert the moderately rational self-seeking politician in the

1:09.7

Donald Trump place. So this is a deeply psychologically damaged person who's driven in the first

1:15.4

place by his ego needs and driven in the second place by his money-making desires and his

1:20.4

total lack of ethics about how money is made.

1:27.4

That's David From. He's a conservative political commentator and staff writer at the Atlantic

1:33.4

magazine. From served as a presidential speech writer at the start of the George W. Bush

1:37.7

administration, and he's been credited with coining the term axis of evil, which Bush

1:42.4

used frequently in the lead up to the Iraq War. These days, From is a prominent critic

1:46.7

of Trump and the modern Republican Party. His most recent book, Trumpocalypse Restoring

1:51.7

American Democracy, focuses on how we recover from the last four years. From joins me today

1:56.9

in the throes of the former president's historic second Senate impeachment trial, we discuss

2:01.5

how the trial is going, the state of the GOP, and From's view that impeachment, even without

2:06.3

conviction, is an effective political remedy. That's coming up. Stay tuned.

2:19.0

Now let's get to your questions. This question comes in a tweet from

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