Hello and welcome to Trump cast I'm Virginia Heffernan just when I thought I was out

pull me back in.

Trump cast has been working hard to drop the bulk of its title since Joe Biden

won the election in November. We promised to stay until this is over and we were

going to stay through the inauguration of the next president just to be on the safe side.

But as the nation's capital is being fortified against the president of the United States

and his foot soldiers, the definition of safe side has become somewhat complicated.

So to answer your many questions about what will become of Trumpcast,

the answer is the same as it's always been.

We promise to stay until this is over. And while that

won't include the post-presidency trials of our criminal president, may they be

millions, it may indeed mean that sometime into Biden's presidency

as this second impeachment in the House goes forward and Trump gets a trial in the

Senate and God willing, though damned unlikely, a conviction.

To understand how we came to a second impeachment, to understand how we came to this

stupefying pass, which looks a lot like Civil War. I'm going to talk to David Weissman today.

David Weissman is an army veteran and a former Trump troll who once considered the very

insurgents that stormed the capital last week, including the

proud boys, they were his brothers in arms. He supported their causes and eagerly revved up

for civil War.

But unlike the insurgents for Maga,

Weissman had a change of heart in 2018

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