On this week's episode of The Waves we talked a little bit briefly with Dahlia

about the case of E. Jean Carroll and her accusations against the president.

On the special episode of Trump cast that was released on Thursday,

Dahlia Lithwick and Virginia Heffenen spoke with E. Jean Carroll.

And we think this is a fascinating news-breaking interview, so we are giving you a little excerpt from it.

If you want to hear the whole thing go to the Trumpcast feed, that's the slate Trump

cast feed and you will find a full run of the interview.

So go there to find the whole thing, but here's an excerpt that we hope you'll enjoy.

What would you say if I told you the story or someone wrote into your your column for advice? I mean

He'll probably been asked this before but I know that I haven't actually

Virginia you were the first one.

Well, let's hear it because I write in and I say,

Auntie E.

You know, I ran into a rich guy in a fancy department store and he bashed my head up against the wall and put his penis in me and I had to fight to get away. What should I do? I would say he raped you. He raped you. I want you to go and talk immediately with someone that you trust and I want you to consider going to the police.

Telling a woman to go to the police can sometimes be another horrible experience for her.

I would, you know, tell her someone she loves and

trust possibly go to a therapist and to consider going to the police and I've

actually written that you know there I answers that, how to do that.

So yes, Virginia, you've nailed me, and that's why I finally came forward.

This very thing, and I could no law, because women start after the Harvey Weinstein story broke in New York by Megan Toey and Jody Cantor.

The very weak I started to get lots of letters from women asking me of all people

should they report their bad boss? Should they report their stepson who is Melissa their child you know it

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