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The Mother Jones Podcast

Trump Won't Stop Lying, Extorting, and Cheating, Even If It Kills the GOP

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

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4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Wow. What a start to the year. For those of you hoping high-stakes political drama might be confined to the 2020 presidential election, think again. In the year's opening week alone, we've heard a raging president, caught on tape, bullying state officials to fake the election result; witnessed a band of would-be coup-plotters launch an unheard-of attack on democracy; and watched a runoff election in Georgia that will decide the fate of the US Senate—and Biden's agenda. To explain the meaning of these dizzying, concurrent developments, host Jamilah King is joined by Washington DC Bureau Chief, David Corn, who provides much-needed historical background to the civil war brewing inside the Republican Party, and more.

"The guy who goes on about election fraud has been caught red-handed, trying to induce election fraud!" Corn explains during the show. "What Trump is doing is he’s trying to create a loyalty test.”

What does this Trump loyalty test mean for the future of the Republican party? Are there parallels between the Whig party’s implosion in the 1800s and the rift within today’s GOP? Could Trump face criminal charges for trying to coerce the Georgia Secretary of State to find him more votes? "What we see here is the coddling of a coup," Corn concludes. "I mean: that’s what they’re trying to do."

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0:00.0

This is the Mother Jones Podcast. I'm Jimmy Licking in New York.

0:04.4

On today's show, on today's show, Hold My Beer. That's what 2021 seems to be saying to 2020.

0:18.3

Boom, this year is starting with a bang. The president caught on tape bullying state officials to change

0:25.2

the election results. You should want to have an accurate election. We believe what we do

0:29.2

have an accurate election. No, I know you don't. A would be band of coup

0:32.7

plotters about to mount an unheard of effort to override the will of the people.

0:37.4

An election that will decide the fate of the US Senate and much of

0:42.4

Biden's hoped for agenda. How could we not

0:45.0

come back and help you work everything out? We're back with David Corn, 2021 the

0:50.6

year that started with a bang and not a wimper, stick around.

0:56.3

David Corn, Washington Bureau Chief, welcome to 2021.

0:59.4

Do I have to be here?

1:00.7

You, you definitely do.

1:02.4

We gotta have you here, David You got to be the first one we talked to.

1:06.0

David, how is your break or did you even get a break? You know, I was hoping for some margin of change between 2020 and 2021, and that hasn't happened.

1:19.4

You know, as soon as we get out of 2020, it seems to pull us back in. The pandemic is worse than it was.

1:28.7

By every day it's getting worse and then our political situation is becoming more and more toxic.

1:35.0

You know, I don't even want to say culminating because we still have weeks to go,

1:40.0

but at least temporarily culminating in the president being taped in a way that makes

1:45.5

him sound like a mob boss while he and his handmaids on the hill plot a

1:52.0

constitutional coup. It doesn't get much more 2020 than that 2021.

1:58.0

So let's start with that tape David. It's a new year but another Trump scandal. The outgoing

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