Trump Whisperer Maggie Haberman On Trump 2.0

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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After MAGA rioters attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, 2021, many people thought Donald Trump's days as a political force were over. A notable exception was Maggie Haberman – senior political correspondent for the New York Times, political analyst for CNN, and author of Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America. Four years later, as the country prepares for President-elect Trump's second inauguration this month, Kara talks to Haberman about initial actions he'll likely take on immigration, tariffs and TikTok; which of his controversial cabinet picks could pass muster in Congress; and whether tech billionaire Elon Musk will have an all-access pass to the West Wing. Plus: how seriously she takes the administration's threats to retaliate against Trump's political enemies, Special Counsel Jack Smith, and journalists like herself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	How are you?
0:01.0	How are you?
0:02.0	Looking at your phone.
0:03.0	I am.
0:04.0	Your favorite thing.
0:05.0	It's on.
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0:11.0	Mypillar.
0:12.0	It is a phone.
0:15.0	Hi, everyone from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:19.0	This is On with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.
0:22.2	My guest today is Maggie Haberman, a senior political correspondent for the New York Times, political analyst for CNN, and author of Confidence Man, The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America.
0:33.2	She's arguably the best-known reporter to cover President-elect Donald Trump, and I love talking
0:37.7	her because, one, she's an amazing reporter, two, she's a good friend of mine, and three, boy,
0:43.1	does she have a job ahead of her. Four years ago, Trump enticed a mob to overrun the Capitol.
0:49.5	The goal was to delay certification in President Joe Biden's victory in the election and
0:53.5	ultimately overturned
0:54.5	the results of that election. Now, Donald Trump's win will be certified, probably without a hitch.
1:00.7	In fact, I'm pretty sure without a hitch. And this time, Trump has a new best friend,
1:05.3	someone I know well too, Elon Musk. Now, Maggie's in my worlds have completely collided. I'm going to talk to Maggie about
1:13.4	how we got here, how Trump will deal with the tiny and restless Republican majority in the
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