Hi, I'm Ben Parker from the Bullwork.

And hi, I'm Mark Hurtling from the Bullwork as a contributor.

And also one of the two hosts, Ben and I host, the Command Post podcast.

And we are excited today because we have a very special guest who's joined us, Margaret Donovan.

Now, Margaret, if I can introduce her very quickly, is a former military lawyer who was a prosecutor in the 101st Airborne Division. She was a legal advisor to a special forces commander. She was a soldier with two combat deployments to both Iraq and Syria. She was a federal prosecutor after she got out of the army. And now she's in private practice and lectures at Yale Law School.

What an amazing bunch of credentials.

Margaret, did I get all that right?

Yeah, I think so.

I think you've got it all, sir.

Thank you.

Okay, great.

Thanks.

Thanks for coming on with us.

We are very excited to talk to you because we have a lot of news about various

things related to the military and the law and military lawyers. We're going to talk a little bit

later about this article that General Hurtling just wrote for the bulwark. You can read it at

the bulwark.com called JAGs shouldn't be civilian prosecutors. It's all about the Trump

administration's possible plans to use military lawyers for their mass deportations. And also,

we learned, uh, we're filming this, uh, on the afternoon of February 11th. So we learned just today

that the administration, the Department of Justice tried to indict a bunch of members of Congress

who had served in the military or the intelligence community for saying that soldiers should

disobey illegal orders. So we're going to have to talk about that too. So to get us started, General,

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