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Oh God, What Now?

Trump vs the World – First Venezuela, then Greenland?

Oh God, What Now?

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News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

What does Trump’s attack on Venezuela mean for the world – and what happens if he’s serious about Greenland? Plus, back home in the UK, politics is incredibly fractured. Reform UK leads many polls, Labour’s favourability is drowning, and the Green Party is neck and neck with the Lib Dems. But can the tide be turned in time to prevent Nigel Farage becoming PM? And in the Extra Bit for subscribers, as we start a new year, our panel describes the things they’re looking to do to push them out of their comfort zones. ESCAPE ROUTES • Marie: All Passion Spent by Vita Sackville-West • Seth is reading a series of memoirs by disgraced politicians. • Jonn: King & Conqueror on BBC iPlayer • Raf: A Swim in a Pond in the Rain by George Saunders If you buy through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Oh God, What Now? by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. https://www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Seth Thévoz with Rafael Behr, Jonn Elledge, and Marie Le Conte.  Audio Production by: Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. https://www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to O Godwaters now, the politics podcast, which, since 2017, has been placidly failing to annex any neighboring countries. I'm Seth Tevall. Today we look at how

0:23.2

Trump's attack on Venezuela makes the world less safe. What does this mean for our already fragile

0:28.5

relationship with the US and is the Trump administration really likely to invade Greenland?

0:33.9

And we'll also be scouring over the shifting tectonic plates of British politics. Let's meet

0:39.2

today's New Year panel. First, we have Guardian columnist and leader writer Raphael Bear. Hello,

0:44.4

Raf. Hi there, Seth. Like every successful government, we've seen another reset and relaunch for this one,

0:51.6

and you've described it as being parochial, poll obsessed in its mindset.

0:55.8

What do you mean by that? I mean, I think probably the best way to describe it is parochial and

1:00.1

pole obsessed. No, I mean, that observation was triggered, and I use that word advisedly, by a story,

1:08.4

it's actually a briefing to the Guardian that said that Morgan McSweeney had given a presentation to the cabinet,

1:16.7

where he said, the quote is, we're in a fight of our lives.

1:20.0

He told them to ignore the polls, which I doubt very much is something Morgan McSweeney ever has ever done.

1:26.7

And then he outlined a strategy for

1:29.0

winning back voters trust with three E's. And I don't mean like three MDMA pills, which

1:36.1

would definitely be a better way of getting people to like the government. But that's obviously

1:40.1

for all sorts of reasons that's not permitted. They, he said emotion, empathy, and evidence.

1:44.7

And that was just my head really hit the desk when I saw that.

1:47.7

First of all, emotion, empathy.

1:49.1

They're pretty much the same thing in this context.

1:50.6

So there's actually two E's.

1:52.3

And just all of it, the PowerPoint, Guff,

1:57.4

the pointing out the blindingly obvious,

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