Hello my name is David Ronson and this is Talking Politics.

I'm joined this week by Helen Thompson, Aaron Rapport and Chris Bickerson. Last week we

held off talking about Trump and Komi because we thought we would let the story just mature

a bit and it has matured over the last week and last night the latest twist is that there's

a memo from James Komi which seems to suggest that the president asked him to back off the

Flynn investigation and that's provoked the latest round of depending on your perspective

hysterical or measured and well-reasoned commentary suggesting that this presidency is in deep

trouble. Some of you may have seen things and maybe I've missed them but I've been looking

for what you might call impartial commentary on this that is not people who just have got

nothing to say but people whose views are not predictable by where they stood beforehand.

I haven't found a Trump supporter who now says this presidency is done but they may be

out there. I mean I know some Republican senators are starting to get twitchy but that's

different. I've not found an anti-Trump or never Trump are saying get over it guys there's

nothing to see here. Everyone seems to more or less take the position you expect them to take

so it's quite hard to know what to think I'm finding and so we're going to talk about that.

We've been frantically looking how to pronounce his name so we think it's Ross Goudet.

Goudet. The New York Times thanks Aaron. The New York Times columnist he's there sort of in-house

Republican but he was pretty skeptical about Trump and this morning he's saying forget impeachment

it's now about incapacity and pence and others you need to think about removing him but that's not

someone who thought he was capable and now thinks he's incapable. So before we get into the

detail of who said what to whom and we may never get to that because we don't know frankly

can we look at it from the other end of the telescope I'm interested in not so much what this says

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