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Let's talk about the F-Wnyc.

Good morning everyone. Let's talk about the F word. No, not that F word. The one that many

people don't like to say out loud in the election context, though some people do.

Listen to how it came up yesterday in Kamala Harris's interview with the radio and TV host Charlemagne.

One mind that is about taking us forward. TV host Charlemagne.

One mind that is about taking us forward and progress in investing the American people, investing

in their ambitions, dealing with their challenges.

And the other, Donald Trump is about taking us backward.

The other is about fascism. Why can't we just say it?

Yes, we can't say that.

He brought it up, she agreed.

As it happens, just a day earlier, Tom Nichols from the Atlantic had a piece called

Donald Trump's fascist romp.

It's a word that not many people actually understand. It can sound like a

smear used too casually when we think of what the most famous fascist from history like

Mussolini actually did, right?

But it's a concern that keeps coming up and a word.

So let's talk about the F word, why it matters or not in the context of this election.

With me now is Atlantic magazine staff writer Tom Nichols, who was also the author of books

including Our Own Worst Enemy, the Assault From Within on Modern Democracy democracy and the death of expertise the campaign

against established knowledge and why it matters. He also has the Atlantic Print

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