Trump v. United States

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, News, Government

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Take a deep breath. John Roberts just handed Donald Trump the keys to the country and said "don't bother bringing it back in one piece."

If you're not a 5-4 Premium subscriber, you won't hear that Rahimi episode that we've got planned for next week. Just sayin!

5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.

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0:00.0	Hey, this is Leon Nefak. You might know me from podcasts like Slow Burn or
0:04.4	fiasco. I want to tell you about my new series, Backfired, The Vaping Wars,
0:09.2	which I'm co-hosting with Silicon Valley journalist Ari L. Pardes.
0:13.0	It tells the story of Jewel Labs,
0:15.0	a company that tried to get people to quit smoking,
0:18.0	got a generation hooked on jewling,
0:20.0	and paved the way for an insane illegal vape market.
0:23.6	Listen to Backfired, a podcast about the business of unintended consequences
0:28.0	at audible.com slash backfired, where you can sign up for a free trial.
0:31.7	Again, that's audible.com slash backfired.
0:35.7	We will hear argument this morning in case 23 939, Trump versus United States.
0:41.1	Hey. United States.
0:44.0	Hey everyone, this is Leon from Prologue projects.
0:47.0	On this emergency episode of 5-4,
0:50.0	Peter and Michael are talking about the United States v. Trump.
0:55.0	The question in this case is one of presidential immunity.
0:58.3	Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in his holding in the case that, yes, when it comes to
1:02.2	many of the alleged crimes
1:03.3	committed during his term. President Trump has quote absolute immunity from
1:08.3	criminal prosecution which sounds pretty different from what Robert said in his confirmation hearing in 2005.
1:14.7	I believe that no one is above the law under our system and that includes the president.
1:20.1	The president is fully bound by the law, the Constitution, and statutes.
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