Trump v Musk: who won?
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🗓️ 9 June 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
The closest of bromances devolved last week into a public cage fight. Where did this come from? And when the richest man in the world and the most powerful man in the world decide to do battle, what are the stakes?
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Host: Manveen Rana.
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| 1:04.0 | From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Manvien Rana. |
| 1:14.0 | What happened? This is the story. I'm Manvien Rana. What happens when the world's richest man and the world's most powerful man |
| 1:19.0 | enter into a public cage fight? |
| 1:22.7 | Well, it starts with a surprisingly friendly, if bizarre, press conference in the Oval Office. |
| 1:30.4 | Elon gave an incredible service. Nobody liked him. And he had to go through the slings and the arrows, |
| 1:38.2 | which is a shame because he's an incredible patriot. |
| 1:42.1 | I wanted to ask quickly, Mr. Musk, is your eye okay? |
| 1:44.6 | What happened to your eye? |
| 1:45.6 | I know this was a blues thing. |
| 1:47.0 | Well, it wasn't anyone here in France. |
| 1:50.0 | So, but, uh, what does that mean? |
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