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Trump v Murdoch: Who will win?

Americast

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.22.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch have had a tumultuous relationship over the decades, but increasingly tensions have threatened to boil over. Following Donald Trump’s claim that he’s ‘been treated very unfairly by The Wall Street Journal on everything’, it’s the president versus the press.

Will this dispute end their relationship, or are they just going through a rough patch?

Joining us on today’s podcast is one of Rupert Murdoch’s former editors - David Yelland. He helps us understand Trump’s relationship with Murdoch throughout the years, what the current tensions could mean for the future of the press, and who will come out on top.

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HOSTS: * Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter * Sarah Smith, North America Editor

GUEST: * David Yelland, Editor of The Sun (1998-2003)

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This episode was made by Tim Walklate with Alix Pickles and Grace Reeve. The technical producer was Michael Regaard. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

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0:42.6

Now back to AmeriCast.

0:45.1

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:48.6

Two heavyweights, about to get into the ring.

0:50.8

And I'm not talking about Sarah and Anthony.

0:52.7

It is the big match-off between Donald Trump

0:55.3

and Rupert Murdoch. And like Sarah and Anthony, they've got cash to burn, perhaps little to lose,

1:01.9

eh, Sarah? Yeah, that's right. Because, I mean, once this fight goes to the distance, we're going to

1:06.7

see these two men and their complicated relationship that they have enjoyed over the years

1:12.0

brought into the public eye and we'll see who's likely to throw the knockout punch.

1:18.1

Welcome to AmeriCast.

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