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The Warning with Steve Schmidt

Trump Using Force To Take Over American Cities | A Conversation with Ryan Lizza

The Warning with Steve Schmidt

iHeartPodcasts

News, Politics, Government

4.8784 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Over the weekend, Trump deployed National Guard troops to American cities like Portland and Chicago. Steve Schmidt sits down with Ryan Lizza to discuss troops patrolling American streets and how we can fight back against Trump's tyranny.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.2

What happened over the weekend is that a Trump appointed judge, and it's kind of interesting

0:11.8

what happened here, Steve, is the original judge in this case was considered a liberal,

0:19.3

and the Justice Department went in and asked him to recuse himself

0:24.4

because his wife is involved in some activism around some of the issues in the case.

0:30.4

And he probably didn't have to, but he did recuse himself. And then the case ended up in the

0:37.1

hands of Karen Imurgut. I hope I'm pronouncing her name

0:41.7

wrong. A Trump appointee from the first term. And the case was the state of Oregon, suing the Trump

0:48.3

administration and saying, you cannot take over our National Guard and send them to Portland.

0:55.3

Now, a lot of people thought originally that Emigut was going to be a friendly judge to the Trump administration.

1:02.2

She wasn't.

1:03.5

She wrote one of the most courageous decisions of the entire year.

1:08.2

If people have not read it, you should go and read it.

1:10.8

It's a 31-page decision.

1:14.4

A true active bravery to stand up to this administration. A lot of judges wouldn't have done this,

1:20.3

especially the deference that judges generally give the commander-in-chief and specifically

1:25.1

in a situation like this. for people who don't know

1:28.6

the full story, once she told the administration it was illegal for them to take over the Oregon

1:34.3

National Guard and send them into Portland. Trump immediately commandeered troops from California,

1:41.4

which National Guard troops, he had already federalized within hours of this ruling

1:47.6

and had them on their way to Portland.

1:54.1

Naturally, the state of California wasn't happy about this.

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