Trump turbulence: How should Labour play it?
Political Fix
Financial Times
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🗓️ 24 January 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump returned to the White House this week, with a host of radical plans that threaten to heavily affect the UK – spanning tariffs, the Ukraine war, energy and climate policy. How should the British government handle the new president and his prospectus? Host Lucy Fisher is joined by FT Westminster colleagues Jim Pickard and Anna Gross, plus US national editor Edward Luce, to consider the incoming turbulence from across the Atlantic. Plus, the team discusses the political fallout from the Southport atrocity.
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| 0:00.0 | How will Trump 2.0 differ from Trump 1.0? Ed. |
| 0:04.3 | Much more dramatic. Anna. |
| 0:06.9 | I'm going to regret saying this, but I think a bit more stable to start with because of how many |
| 0:12.2 | loyal people he's surrounded himself with. |
| 0:14.8 | Jim. |
| 0:15.5 | Even more of a personality cult. |
| 0:20.7 | Hello and welcome to political fix from the Financial Times with me, Lucy Fisher. |
| 0:26.1 | Coming up, he's back. |
| 0:28.1 | But how will the UK and Labour handle Trump the second time round? |
| 0:32.0 | Plus, why the Southport stabbings have undermined trust in the UK government. |
| 0:36.3 | To discuss it all, I'm joined in the studio by |
| 0:38.5 | my FT colleagues Jim Picard. Hi Jim. Hi, Lucy. And Anna Gross. Hi Anna. Hi, Lucy. And joining us down the line |
| 0:44.7 | from Washington is the FT's US national editor and columnist Edward Luce. Hi, Ed. Hi, Lucy. |
| 0:55.1 | So, obviously, the biggest story in town this week, and let's be honest, probably for some weeks to come, |
| 1:00.5 | is Donald Trump's return to the Oval Office. |
| 1:04.4 | Ed, I think we want to focus quite firmly on how his earliest flurry of executive orders, |
| 1:13.8 | pronouncements in his inauguration speech and other policy proposals that have been floated by him affect the UK. But just first off, |
| 1:19.7 | give us your take on how this first week of King Trump, as some are calling him, has turned out. |
| 1:26.0 | As expected, I mean, it has been dramatic, as I indicated earlier, but it hasn't been that |
| 1:31.7 | surprising. I mean, these executive orders cover everything, you know, every piece of the |
| 1:37.2 | waterfront, from getting rid of DEI in federal government to sending troops to the border, |
| 1:44.1 | questioning birthright citizenship, |
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