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Trump Trials and Tribulations: N.Y. Trial Dispatch - Trump Convicted

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🗓️ 31 May 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations, N.Y. Dispatch” was recorded on May 30 in front of a live audience on YouTube and Zoom.


Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes talked to Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic and Roger Parloff, Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien, and Courts Correspondent and Legal Fellow Anna Bower about Trump's conviction in his N.Y. criminal case. Trump was found guilty on 34 felony counts for falsification of business records in the first degree. They discussed the the mood in the courtroom when the jury delivered the verdict, what this means for the 2024 election, big takeaways from the trial, and more.








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aftermath. Hi, this is Max Richter. You're listening to my new single movement before all flowers.

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Listen now on Spotify. I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast here with Tyler McBrien, Anna Bauer, Quinta Jurassic, and Roger Parloff.

1:17.0

Today we're talking about the conviction of Donald Trump on 34 counts of falsifying business of Welcome to Trump's trials and tribulations special conviction edition New York trial.

1:41.8

It is 7 o'clock PM East Coast time and moments ago a jury of his peers

1:51.7

convicted Donald Trump of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first

1:58.7

degree and let us start with everything we know about what happened.

2:06.4

Tyler and Anna split it up as you like.

2:11.1

Tell us about the late afternoon starting at around 420 today.

2:18.0

So at around 420, I think a lot of the press were expecting some sort of note around fourish because we were told that we would stop at 4.30 or be told that we would go later to 6. So around 4.20, there was a bit of a buzz. I guess there was a buzzer, and we got the jury note.

2:35.0

Justice Meachon came back and told us that unfortunately, well he didn't say unfortunately,

2:40.0

but we would not be getting a verdict and he would be excusing the jury at

2:43.4

4.30 and so he left to go I guess presumably get the jury just bringing them back to

2:48.7

excuse them and then it was like 4.30, 431, 432, bit of confusion, and then all of a sudden he comes back with a different

2:58.4

jury note, this one saying that the jury has decided to return a verdicts which was shocking.

3:04.6

I think the mood, I want to know what was like in the courtroom,

3:07.7

I was in overflow.

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