Trump Trial, Supreme Court "Ethics" & Thanksgiving Table Conversation: With Tom Nichols, Elie Mystal and Glenn Kirschner

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

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🗓️ 22 November 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Michael is joined by Tom Nichols, Elie Mystal and Glenn Kirschner for a barbershop discussion on current events and politics. They discuss the Trump trial and why he's gotten away with as much as he has, how Trump passed the line into fascism, what the Supreme Court "Code of Ethics" really means and how to reason and converse with family members this Thanksgiving.

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Tom Nichols is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a professor emeritus of national-security affairs at the U.S. Naval War College. He writes about international security, nuclear weapons, Russia, and the challenges to democracy in the United States and around the world.
Elie Mystal is The Nation’s justice correspondent and the host of its legal podcast, “Contempt of Court.” He is the author of the New York Times bestseller “Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution.”

Glenn Kirschner is a former federal prosecutor with 30 years of trial experience. He served in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia for 24 years. He hosts “Justice Matters with Glenn Kirschner."

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0:35.4	As you know, every once in a while, I like to invite a few people over to the podcast to discuss what's going on in politics to sort of sit back, relax, and take a load off. We may not always agree on everything, but it's a lot of fun and always a good conversation. So today I'm joined by three friends who I thought I invite to the barber shop, if you you will here in the neighborhood to have a conversation on everything from the trials of Donald Trump and the trial for us as Americans that we're going through this crap. Certainly the Supreme Court and everything in between and so I've got Tom Nichols
0:42.4	staff writer at the Atlantic and professor emeritus of National Security Affairs at the US Naval War College, he writes about international security, nuclear weapons, Russia, and the challenges to democracy in the United States and around the world. We got Ellie Mistahl, the wild man, the beast, my man is the nation's justice correspondent and the host of its legal
1:06.4	podcast Contempt of Court is also the author of the New York Times bestseller
1:10.6	allow me to retort a black guy's guide to the Constitution.
1:14.3	And Glenn Kirsner is a former federal prosecutor with 30 years of trial experience.
1:19.4	He served in the US Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia for 24 years.
1:24.5	He hosts Justice Matters with Glenn Kirsner, a podcast where he breaks down today's complex
1:30.2	legal issues in ways that are very understandable.
1:34.4	Tom, Ellie, and Glenn here on the Michael Steele podcast
1:38.7	at the Barbershop coming up next right after this. Come on, Katerina.
1:46.2	You can handle this heat one event at a time.
1:49.6	Throw together a decent regu. Jump straight onto the Malaysian quarry. Bring it home with the
1:55.3	chili. Yeah, I'll bust this batchcock. Perform better on Sundays. Get half-priced electricity,
2:01.6	11 a.m. till 4 p.m. with
2:03.1	pique from British Gas.
2:04.6	Proud partners of team g.
2:06.0	and Paralympics gee.
2:08.6	Ends 31st of December.
2:09.9	Tees and sees apply.
2:10.7	Smart meter required. This. Welcome everybody to the Michael Steele barber shop edition of the
2:24.8	podcast yes we are up in the neighborhood with a couple of fellows who need to
2:29.2	get it to get it fixed to get it done to get it shaped gl to get it done, to get it shaped.
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