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Trump Threatens Troops for Portland

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Lauren Egan talks with Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield about Trump’s distorted narrative of Portland and why Oregon is prepared to block any unlawful troop move.

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0:00.0

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0:21.9

bulwark. I have Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield here with me. We're going to talk a little bit

0:27.0

about the situation going on in Portland today. Before I get started, I just want to read a

0:32.3

truth social post that Donald Trump posted over the weekend. He wrote that he was directing Secretary of War Pete Hegeseth

0:40.2

to provide all necessary troops to protect war-ravaged Portland

0:44.6

and any of our ICE facilities under siege from attack by Antifa

0:48.7

and other domestic terrorists.

0:51.0

I'm also authorizing full force, if necessary,

0:53.7

thank you for your attention to this matter.

0:55.3

Okay. So, Dan, let's just start with what does the situation look like in Portland right now?

1:03.2

Are you seeing an increase in federal troops in the city? What do things look like?

1:08.2

Not in the present moment. So it's a very early on in the process.

1:13.0

This is before the U.S. military has arrived in Portland. And the way to think about this for folks

1:19.6

that are outside, right? You normally don't use the U.S. military on citizens, right? There's

1:24.8

certain things that you need to accomplish. The president has made

1:28.1

and formed an opinion on social media, and that's basically how he's deciding how to interact

1:34.1

in this world, which is not the best basis to provide leadership to a country via social media.

1:39.7

And you have, as you're thinking on the ground here in Oregon, a disagreement about what the reality is, what the president sees on social media and what we're actually living.

1:49.5

And you're seeing that manifest itself on videos from members of Congress.

1:54.9

You have videos from community leaders.

1:57.4

Really kind of trying to tell the president, hey, this isn't the reality that you think

2:01.6

it is. We've even had the governor reach out and talk to the president, trying to talk about that.

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