meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Trump, the GOP and the ‘One Big, Beautiful Bill'

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress set a July 4th deadline to pass a spending package the President and others gave the moniker the “One Big, Beautiful Bill.” Getting the measure to the president’s desk hasn’t been plain sailing - the Senate version passed this week only with a tie-breaking vote by Vice President JD Vance. Now fiscal conservatives in the House are battling over some of the details, but it seems likely to become law soon enough.  On this episode of Free Expression, Gerry Baker speaks with economist and former director of the Congressional Budget Office Douglas Holtz-Eakin about the bill’s likely positive impact on the economy as well as the nation's dire fiscal situation, how the nation’s budget challenges still require reform of entitlements that seems politically elusive, and what this signature piece of domestic policy says about the direction of Trump’s Republican Party.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:09.2

Hello and welcome to free expression from the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal.

0:12.7

I'm Jerry Baker, editor at large of the journal.

0:15.2

As I always say, thank you very much, not only for joining us, but thank you very much for subscribing.

0:19.2

If you're not subscribing already, please make sure you do at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you do, you're listening.

0:24.4

And please, of course, leave us a nice review. This week, we have the almost, almost legislated,

0:32.5

put into law, the one big, beautiful bill. Of course, this is the signature piece of domestic legislation for

0:39.2

President Trump and the Republican Party. Past the Senate, the Senate passed its version this week,

0:44.0

somewhat different from the House version that passed a couple of weeks ago, but not dramatically

0:47.8

or significantly different. As I record this now on Wednesday morning, it's back before the House.

0:53.4

The House is expected to devote pretty

0:54.8

soon. And while there are still some Republican opponents in the House, where there's a small

1:00.1

Republican majority casting some doubt on the outcome, I think we can probably, probably

1:05.6

be fairly confident that this measure, as I say, the signature measure of Donald Trump's second

1:09.8

term, domestic policy measure of his second term, is very likely to emerge in something like the form

1:14.6

that the Senate has passed. That is, of course, as you know, essentially the centerpiece of it

1:20.0

is the extension of the 2017 tax cuts that the Republicans passed in Donald Trump's first

1:25.1

term, that significant tax cuts, both in personal

1:28.1

income tax rates, but of course in corporate tax rates. So those were due to expire. They, as a

1:33.4

result of this measure, assuming it's passed, will be extended, now not essentially indefinitely.

1:38.6

Obviously, the other key elements of this measure, one set of important elements, at least in

1:43.9

political terms,

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.