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The Beat with Ari Melber

Trump Tests Law by Claiming $1B+ for Convicts

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Politics, Government, News, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, Versant Media

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Ty Cobb, who served as a White House lawyer during Trump’s first term, joins MS NOW’s Ari Melber on “The Beat” for a wide-ranging discussion. Plus, Capitol Police officers who defended the Capitol on Jan. 6 are suing the Trump administration. Ari Melber is joined by former Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the beat, everyone. I'm Ari Melbourne. We begin with some real developments in Congress

0:04.8

that show there are still limits and rules that facts and exposure matter. The Thug Fund we've been

0:09.6

reporting on is not only likely unconstitutional and illegal, it is not only the most anti-police,

0:16.0

soft-on-crime initiative we've ever seen come out of any modern DOJ under Trump's tutelage.

0:22.0

It also now,

0:27.9

partly for those reasons, is causing a giant rift among Republicans, one that they can't hide and that spilled into public view late today. The DOJ, I should say, has, of course, failed to find

0:34.4

any rational way to defend or explain the fund, which means even Republicans

0:39.6

who go along with so much of what Donald Trump wants are balking today. They could not get

0:46.1

lawmakers on board with the thug fund, which would go to thugs and other people convicted of

0:51.9

crimes, potentially January 6 violent offenders.

0:54.6

The acting AG for Trump didn't rule that out.

0:58.1

And Blanche today tried to hold a meeting that was described as very contentious.

1:02.2

This was just with Republicans.

1:03.7

So you've got Trump Republicans and Trump's Republican acting AG, and yet he couldn't find

1:09.4

a good audience there, reportedly struggling to address

1:13.5

their concerns. One source saying he just wasn't persuasive to the room, and that meant something

1:19.1

real then happened. Senators abandoned any plans to go forward with something that was supposed

1:24.3

to help Trump today, an immigration vote. The Times reports how

1:28.5

just that delay shows the toxic dynamic between the White House and the Republican Congress,

1:34.4

as they head into the midterms. This is the first step in what could be a road to another

1:42.7

public embarrassment or rejection for Donald Trump. Politically, that would be bad

1:46.2

for Trump, just like when Republicans found that they were going to overthrow and revolt against

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