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Trump targets Big Law, and Big Law appears intimidated

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🗓️ 24 March 2025

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Summary

For weeks, President Trump has been issuing executive orders and memos that levy or threaten sanctions on major law firms.

The moves suspend security clearances, cancel government contracts, bar employees from federal buildings — and other actions that threaten their ability to represent their clients.

While Trump complains the law firms employed "very dishonest people," legal experts say Trump is retaliating against firms who have represented his political opponents or, in one case, rehired an attorney who had left his position to help prosecute a case against Trump.

We hear from Rachel Cohen, who publicly resigned from her law firm in protest.

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0:00.0

For weeks now, President Donald Trump has been issuing memos and executive orders targeting big law firms.

0:06.5

Here's how he laid it out on Fox News.

0:08.3

We have a lot of law firms that we're going to be going after because they were very dishonest people.

0:15.1

They were very, very dishonest.

0:16.4

They could go point after point after point.

0:18.7

Trump's moves suspended firm security clearances, prohibited government contractors from retaining

0:23.6

the firms, and even barred their employees from federal buildings.

0:26.8

He also issued an executive memo threatening sanctions on any law firms that pursue, quote,

0:33.5

frivolous, unreasonable, and vexatious litigation against the United States. Here's how Professor

0:39.4

Timothy Zick at William and Mary Law School describes it all. This is an effort to target and

0:45.3

retaliate against law firms that were doing lawful work, advocacy on behalf of their clients.

0:51.8

Each of the firms had fallen a foul of Trump in one way or another.

0:55.5

Perkins Cooey, for example, represented Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign and had a hand

1:00.9

in the creation of the infamous Trump-Russia dossier.

1:04.2

With another firm, Paul Weiss, the complaints included the rehiring of an attorney who had

1:08.8

left to help prosecute a case against Trump.

1:11.8

In court, the Trump administration has argued that the president has the authority to take

1:16.3

action against companies if he believes they can't be trusted with national secrets.

1:21.9

University of Pennsylvania law professor Claire Finkelstein says it appears clear the president has a

1:27.4

different goal.

1:28.5

I think if you look at the purpose of the executive orders, it's to intimidate professionals,

1:35.0

to intimidate the legal profession from engaging in professional activities that go against

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