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🗓️ 25 March 2025
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0:00.0 | If you could boil down how Democrats versus Republicans are reacting to Monday's bombshell Atlantic magazine story into a single 15-second clip, it might be this one, Georgia Democratic Senator John Ossoff, questioning CIA director John Radcliffe. |
0:15.5 | Director Radcliffe, this was a huge mistake, correct? |
0:23.3 | No. |
0:26.4 | A national... |
0:27.9 | Hold on. |
0:28.5 | No, no, you hold on. |
0:29.7 | Okay, to back us up a bit, that Atlantic story was written by Jeffrey Goldberg, and in |
0:34.1 | it, he details how he was included, apparently by accident, in a group chat on the encrypted messaging app signal. |
0:42.2 | He spoke with me about what happened next. |
0:44.5 | I look at the group. It's 18 people or so. And it includes what I take to be the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Vice President, CIA Director, and so on. |
0:56.7 | Goldberg says he thinks it's a hoax at first, but he stays quiet and watches the conversation unfold. |
1:04.2 | Eventually, they begin discussing a potential U.S. strike on Houthi targets in Yemen. |
1:09.3 | By Saturday the 15th, the text chain is filled up with what I would call operational |
1:14.9 | military information of the sort that I'm not comfortable sharing. |
1:19.0 | I'm not comfortable sharing. |
1:19.8 | Well, but just to describe that, information about the targets, weapons that the U.S. would be |
1:24.5 | using, and how the attacks would be sequenced, right? |
1:27.3 | Yes. I'm sitting in my car in a parking lot in a supermarket at 1144 a.m. Eastern, and I get this war plan from Pete Hexeth. |
1:38.8 | And it basically says, in two hours' time, you'll begin to see the effects of the bombing. |
1:46.4 | The bombs fall, and Goldberg realizes this group chat is indeed very real. And eventually, |
1:53.3 | he writes all about it in the article. All of this was, as Goldberg described it, a massive |
1:58.3 | security breach. These are the most serious jobs in America. |
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