Trump takes the 5th, raising the prospect of his own criminal conduct

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

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🗓️ 11 August 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Wednesday, August 3. In a once unthinkable step, a former President pleads the fifth, refusing to answer questions under oath in a New York. The deposition comes after losing a long battle to duck testimony with New York Attorney General Letitia James. Asha Rangappa, a former FBI Special Agent and former RNC Chairman Michael Steele join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the beat. I am Ari Melburgh. We are tracking new breaking news about Donald Trump's
0:04.5	unprecedented legal problems. Today, August 10th, 2022, a former United States president pleaded
0:12.5	the fifth, raising the topic of his own criminal culpability and illegal proceeding.
0:18.2	Donald Trump spending six hours dodging questions at a deposition. You could see
0:21.8	him leaving there in New York today. He stated that he pled the fifth under the advice of counsel
0:26.6	declining to answer the questions. This striking legal development, which we will get into,
0:32.4	comes just two days after August 8th, 2022, when the FBI searched a former president's home.
0:39.7	Both developments show the depths of Donald Trump's legal problems.
0:44.2	Neither means that he is, in a legal sense, guilty of anything, to be precise.
0:51.2	Both mean that the concerns about Donald Trump's guilt, about lawbreaking, about criminal evidence, and criminal activity,
0:59.0	stretch from the highest levels of the DOJ to a separate New York probe to inside Donald Trump's mind.
1:07.0	Only he can make the decision that he made today. And let me tell it to you in plain English.
1:14.9	It's a right he can exercise, but he made the decision, Donald Trump did, but he faces a higher
1:20.7	risk by testifying truthfully in the New York probe, which he chose not to do, and by pleading the fifth,
1:29.2	which he chose to do. It is a legal, but a controversial move, which he has publicly derided
1:36.5	for years. Donald Trump pleading the fifth in this state probe, which is completely separate
1:42.0	from that federal probe, which led the FBI agents to search
1:45.9	his home, an unprecedented event that has continued to send shockwaves across the nation this week.
1:51.8	And yet it was Donald Trump himself trying to link these two separate legal events and that
1:55.8	angry statement that he issued today as he tried to explain why he's suddenly pleading the fifth. Meanwhile,
2:03.4	his lawyer recounting the details of Monday's search. Well, I mean, it looks like a scene from a
2:09.9	movie. You know, the FBI rolls up. They've got their black SUVs and they unload and kind of
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