Trump Takes Aim at TikTok and WeChat
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 12 August 2020
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
President Trump recently issued executive orders aimed at banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in the United States. To discuss the sanction, Bobby Chesney sat down with Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens, an associate professor at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin and a faculty affiliate with the Strauss Center for International Security and Law and the Clements Center for National Security at UT; and Dr. Ronald Deibert, a professor of political science and the founder and director of The Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto's Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. In addition to the executive orders concerning TikTok and WeChat, they also discussed the larger U.S.-China relationship and the role of technology competition in that space.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | It's not clearly linked to an overall strategy. |
| 0:38.6 | In fact, even I would go so far as to say a contradicts longstanding US strategy for |
| 0:44.0 | cyberspace, which depends on open and secure internet. |
| 0:48.1 | And my fear is that other countries will look at this type of executive action and say, |
| 0:54.6 | you know what, this is a model we'd like to follow and where that leads down the road |
| 0:59.8 | is towards the eventual splintering of the internet, which is not in the long-term interests |
| 1:05.2 | of certainly not liberal democratic countries, but I would argue for the planet as a whole. |
| 1:10.6 | And so that's where my biggest concern is with this, it seems extreme and tempestuous, |
| 1:16.7 | not really thought through carefully in terms of how it connects to an overall strategy. |
| 1:23.3 | I'm Professor Bobby Chesney from the University of Texas at Austin, as well as LawFair and |
| 1:27.9 | the National Security Law Podcast. |
| 1:30.3 | This is the LawFair Podcast, August 12, 2020. |
| 1:34.6 | I sat down with Dr. Sheenet Chesnet-Gridens and Dr. Ron Debert to discuss President Trump's |
| 1:39.4 | decision to sanction TikTok and WeChat. |
| 1:42.8 | Dr. Grydens is an associate professor at the LBJ School of Public Affairs here at UT |
| 1:47.4 | Austin and a faculty affiliate, the Strauss Center and the Clements Center at UT. |
| 1:52.0 | For work focuses on East Asia, American National Security, authoritarian politics and foreign |
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