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On Point | Podcast

Trump takes aim at the Smithsonian

On Point | Podcast

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

A White House executive order seeks to eliminate “improper anti-American ideology” and promote "American greatness" at the nation’s museums. What Trump's recent attacks on the Smithsonian mean for how Americans understand their shared history.

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0:00.0

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0:27.8

This is On Point. I'm Anthony Brooks, in for Megna Chakra-Bardi.

0:30.1

This hour, the fight over America's history.

0:34.5

We're talking about one of President Trump's many executive orders, this one entitled Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History.

0:38.0

In it, Trump targets the Smithsonian Institution and its sprawling collection of museums,

0:42.8

which he says promote a divisive, race-centered ideology.

0:46.8

He says the Smithsonian needs to be restored to its rightful place as a symbol of inspiration and American greatness.

0:54.1

The president claims that over the past

0:55.7

decade, there's been a concerted effort to rewrite our nation's history in a way that makes America

1:00.8

look bad. But as critics say the executive order does just that, that it's an effort to rewrite

1:06.9

history in the service of his political ideology. So what happens when politics collide with our effort to understand our shared history?

1:16.2

Well, joining us now is Jennifer Schusler.

1:18.2

She's a reporter at the New York Times who covers scholarship, history, and ideas.

1:21.9

She's been writing a lot lately about this particular executive order and the Smithsonian.

1:26.5

She joins us from New York City,

1:28.2

and Jennifer, welcome to On Point. It's great to have you. Great to be here. So I think it might

1:33.0

be useful just to kick off this show with just a brief description of what the Smithsonian

1:39.7

institution is for listeners who might not have had a chance to visit these wonderful museums

1:45.7

in Washington.

1:46.9

Tell us just a little bit about what the Smithsonian is.

1:49.8

Well, the Smithsonian was founded in 1848 with a bequest from an Englishman who wanted there

1:56.8

to be created in Washington, D.C., you know, a museum that would disseminate, promote and

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