Trump Supporters Threaten CIVIL WAR After Charlie Kirk Killed
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 11 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | The assassination of the far-right US commentator Charlie Kirk and the implications of what comes next in the US and beyond represents a truly terrifying and dangerous moment. |
| 0:12.0 | Now, there were already big questions about whether an already deeply compromised democracy will survive Trumpism and the possible violence and repression to come are frankly |
| 0:22.1 | truly chilling to think about. Now, anyone who knows anything about me knows I oppose |
| 0:26.9 | killing anyone in virtually any circumstances, except unavoidable self-defense, whether that be |
| 0:31.7 | on an individual or collective level. I watched the video of his assassination and to be honest, |
| 0:37.9 | I wish I hadn't. It was horrible to watch. I don't support the death penalty in any circumstances. |
| 0:43.3 | I certainly don't support it for people with extreme views. So obviously, I wouldn't support |
| 0:48.8 | individuals assassinating people because of what their extreme views are. I'm not, however, going to frame this |
| 0:56.7 | is simply having a difference of opinion, as I will explain. Now, the time I'm speaking, we don't know |
| 1:01.7 | who killed Charlie Kirk. Maybe that will have changed by the time you listen to this. I'll try |
| 1:05.1 | and make my comments cover any scenario with that in mind. Now, we know that the two would be assassins |
| 1:10.6 | of Donald Trump, |
| 1:11.5 | Thomas Matthew Crox, and Ryan Wesley Ruth, were not left wing in any meaningful sense at all. |
| 1:17.6 | Crox was a registered Republican. Ruth had voted for Trump in 2016, then ended up backing |
| 1:22.6 | politicians who belonged to both parties. Luigi Mangione, who allegedly killed the United Healthcare CEO, wasn't Lefring either. |
| 1:30.5 | He seemed to be some form of slightly eccentric, centrist, if you like. |
| 1:34.6 | Now, this hasn't stopped Trump supporters lying about these acts of violence, however, |
| 1:40.0 | including Donald Trump themselves. |
| 1:41.7 | Now, if the shooter happens to be somewhat purporting to have left-wing |
| 1:44.3 | opinions, then they are completely and utterly insane if they think that this would somehow advance |
| 1:48.6 | the interests of the left. Morality aside, in what scenario would that happen? It simply strengthens |
| 1:53.8 | the power of the state. At the very moment, it's under far-right control. It has placed left-wing |
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