He's already threatening to back out of the debate. I told you on yesterday's show that he was going to lower the expectations and spin it as though Kamala Harris is a world-class debater.

Trump is already threatening to pull out.

I told you this was going to happen.

It's been several months since I talked about Project 2025.

The plan drawn up by the Heritage Foundation

for the Trump administration, too,

among other things, hit the ground running on day one by slashing the administrative state

and destroying the civil service as we know it. There are several components to

Project 2025 but believe me the ultimate components to project 2025.

But believe me, the ultimate goal here

is to make the federal government so small

you can, as Grover Norquist famously said,

drown it in a bathtub,

to which I said to Grover,

where do you think that water for your bathtub

is coming from?

The government. I was having a difficult time getting another

show ready about Project 2025 because it's a massive document and the media as well as the Democratic National

Committee at the convention last week did a pretty good job covering it. So we

all know the introduction for Project 2025 was written by none other than JD Vance.

That would be JD Vance.

Somebody's learning after effects.

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