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"Trump Sounds Like a FASCIST!" Piers Morgan vs Slavoj Zizek On Fascism

Piers Morgan Uncensored

Piers Morgan Uncensored

Sports, News, Society & Culture

3.7651 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Is Donald Trump really a fascist - or has the word lost all meaning in modern political discourse? In the age of Trump, “fascism” has become one of the most explosive and contested terms in politics. Critics argue it’s an accurate description of the former president’s rhetoric and leadership style, while supporters see it as reckless hyperbole designed to demonize him. Renowned philosopher and psychoanalyst Slavoj Žižek joins Piers Morgan to discuss his new book, Liberal Fascism, and whether the label truly applies to Donald Trump - or whether something more complicated is happening beneath the surface of modern liberal politics. Later, Piers is joined by internet commentator Warren Smith, who offers a very different perspective on the debate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Some follow the noise.

0:03.0

Bloomberg follows the money, whether it's the funds fueling AI or crypto's trillion

0:07.7

dollar swings.

0:08.9

There's a money side to every story.

0:11.4

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0:13.5

Subscribe now at Bloomberg.com.

0:18.6

Once you start having all the sorts of different versions of fascism, it's very easy to then call pretty much everyone a fascist that you don't like.

0:27.5

Trump likes to attack the left as multiculturalist, confused, historicist, self-contradictory.

0:34.7

Sorry, but if there ever was a historicist relativist, it's Trump.

0:39.3

I have the opportunity to speak to what people consider to be the most dangerous philosopher in the West or to the West,

0:45.3

and I believe they call you that because you identify as a communist.

0:49.3

I am saying that Stalinism in all its horror is still part of the European Enlightenment.

0:59.0

It's impossible to avoid the subject of fascism in the age of Donald Trump.

1:03.0

Some people wield it simply as an insult to the American president.

1:07.0

Others invest a lot of time and energy in explaining how it's a fair and legitimate label.

1:12.2

Many of his supporters use it as an example of incendiary rhetoric gone too far, all of which

1:16.8

begs the question, is Donald Trump a fascist?

1:20.3

Well, revered philosopher and psychoanalyst, Slavoy Zhijek, author of the new book,

1:25.5

Liberal Fascisms, has some thoughts. And a bit later on the show, we'll both be joined by Warren Smith, the internet's premier, critical thinker, who has some different thoughts. We're joining us to right away is Savoie. Welcome back to Unsighting. Great to see you here in the studio. Great to see you, the first time face to face. I want to start Savoy with a quote from your new book.

1:46.7

Yeah.

1:47.2

Perhaps the best characterization of Trump is that he's liberal, namely a fascist liberal.

1:52.1

He's the ultimate proof that liberalism and fascism work together,

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