Trump's Trials and Tribulations: Judge Cannon's Concerning Jury Instructions
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🗓️ 23 March 2024
⏱️ 84 minutes
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It's another episode of “Trump's Trials and Tribulations,” recorded on March 21 in front of a live audience on YouTube and Riverside. Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic sat down with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes and Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff to talk about Trump's SCOTUS brief in his presidential immunity appeal and recent evidentiary rulings from Judge Merchan in the New York criminal case against Trump. They also discussed Judge Cannon's odd proposed jury instructions, the relevance—or irrelevance—of the Presidential Records Act in the Mar-a-Lago case, and how the government may proceed. And of course they took audience questions from Lawfare Material Supporters on Riverside.
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| 1:16.8 | says when you brief this when you give me this seminar let's assume two |
| 1:22.2 | scenarios in scenario this seminar, let's assume two scenarios. |
| 1:24.3 | In scenario number one, we're going to issue a jury instruction based on the premise that these |
| 1:30.3 | papers are a duck. |
| 1:32.5 | And it's actually just like wrong. |
| 1:35.7 | Like, why don't you issue a, write a jury instruction on the basis |
| 1:40.4 | that the world is flat? It's a false premise and the false premise is that this is a jury |
| 1:46.8 | question rather than a legal question. That's scenario number one. Scenario number two is even worse because as |
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