Trump’s Trials and Tribulations: Gag Orders and Presidential Immunity
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🗓️ 7 October 2023
⏱️ 80 minutes
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It's another episode of “Trump’s Trials and Tribulations,” our weekly live stream on YouTube—and on Zoom for Material Supporters. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett, Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic and Roger Parloff, and Legal Fellow Anna Bower to talk about all kinds of things on a whirlwind tour around four different courts.
The talked about what’s going on in the New York civil case, what’s with all of these gag orders and gag order requests, what’s up in the Mar-a-Lago case in south Florida, who is pleading guilty in Fulton County, and what’s up with this new motion to dismiss in Washington on asserted grounds of presidential immunity.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:55.6 | But I do think that it is notable that he's signing again and again this huge filing |
| 1:23.3 | that when you get to the bottom of it, at the very least indicates a willingness on DOJ's |
| 1:30.3 | part to acknowledge that perhaps Trump's conduct at least on the day of on the 6th might |
| 1:37.3 | not be covered by presidential immunity. Again, the specifics of the doctrine get kind |
| 1:43.3 | of hairy, but I did find that notable. I'm not certainly not saying it involves any kind |
| 1:48.8 | of shakhaner or anything like that. I'm a part of Trump's lawyers, but I do think it |
| 1:52.9 | points to just how tricky this is and maybe suggests that Trump's argument on this is |
| 2:00.9 | not quite so strong as he would like it to appear. |
| 2:05.4 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast, October 7, 2023. It's another episode |
| 2:13.7 | of Trump Trials and Tribulations, our weekly live stream on YouTube and on Zoom for material |
| 2:22.5 | supporters. Joining me in the virtual Zoom studio were Quintedjurexic, Roger Parloff, |
| 2:31.7 | Anna Bauer, and Natalie Orpet. We talked about all kinds of things on our whirlwind tour |
| 2:38.7 | around four different courts, what's going on in the New York civil case, what's with |
| 2:44.8 | all these gag orders and gag order requests, what's up in the Mar-a-Lago case in South Florida, |
| 2:53.0 | who's pleading guilty in Fulton County and what's up with this new motion to dismiss |
| 2:58.7 | in Washington on asserted grounds of presidential immunity. It's the LawFair podcast, Trump |
| 3:07.2 | Trials and Tribulations, gag orders, and presidential immunity. |
| 3:15.8 | Natalie, I want to start with you. In a state court in New York, we have a civil case, |
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