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We have always been very clear that we prefer a negotiated solution.

This remains the case, and we will use the time that we have now till the 1st of August. And on the second track,

since the very beginning, we have worked and now are ready to respond with countermeasures.

Ursula von der Leyen speaking, as Donald Trump announced 30% tariffs on exports of European goods into the US.

Yeah, we are sort of right back where we started in terms of our trip to tariff land here.

If anything, for some countries, it's even worse.

We have the Trump administration talking about bringing back really steep tariffs on Canadian goods,

Brazil getting hit with a 50%

tariff, despite the kind of trade surplus there. You have tariffs on coffee, you have looming

farmer tariffs. It's been a long time since we've delved into the topic of tariffs or what

feels like a long time in reality. Only been a few weeks. It seems like a good time to dive back in.

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So, Jonathan, I think you said it very well.

We're kind of back to where we started.

But again, a looming deadline over the world, August 1st, where we're waiting for, I guess, these tariffs to

kick in, right? Right. That's the thing. It's funny because I feel like almost in order to make

it look like this isn't just doing the same thing again. It was framed less as a deadline,

and more as a this is going to happen, right? You know, Trump started just posting out of nowhere,

all of these letters that were supposedly sent to heads of state around the world on true

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