On the Wild Card podcast, author John Green fights to be optimistic.

I keep learning again and again that hope is the right response to the human condition.

And I have to learn this over and over again because despair is an incredibly powerful force in my life.

I'm Rachel Martin. Join us for NPR's Wild Card Podcast, the show where cards

control the conversation. Hi, this is Emily from Fort Myers, Florida. My boss and I are dressed up as

George Washington ready to take on the local rotary club's cardboard boat regatta. This podcast was

recorded at 10.m. Eastern Time on Thursday, April 10th of 2025.

Things may have changed by the time you hear this, but hopefully our Durham boat has not sunk

to the bottom of the lake with us in it. Enjoy the show.

I so want to go to a regatta.

I thought you said you wanted to dress up as George Washington. I could see that for you,

Frank O'clock. I would do that, too. I'm done with it.

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Asma Khalid. I cover the White House.

I'm Frank O'Ordanez. I cover the White House as well.

And today on the show, the tug of war over tariffs continues. And a quick flashback to last

week first, that's when President Trump's tariff policy went into effect on imported goods.

That was a universal 10% tariff on all countries. plus the threat of even higher tariffs.

Stock markets reeled from the news.

Other countries retaliated with tariffs of their own on American-made goods.

And now it looks like some of the president's tariffs are on pause.

So to help us make sense of all the twists and turns, we have called up a special guest, NPR's finance correspondent Maria Aspen. She's joining us from New York City. Hey there. Hey there. And this is your

first time in the show, right? So thank you so much. Yes. Very excited to be here. Welcome. Welcome.

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