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All right, should we do this?

Let's do this.

Okay, talk about education first and then, uh, and we'll pivot to some corruption.

Hello, welcome to another episode of the weeds, Vox's policy podcast on the Panoply Network.

Ezra is on vacation and I believe in Arizona and Sarah is off reporting someplace in the

wilds of Kentucky.

I saw an Instagram with her at what I believe was the Kentucky Fried Chicken Museum.

So I hope we're going to get some, uh, some hot KFC takes for vegetarian when she's back.

Um, but for this week, I'm joined by my esteemed colleague, uh, Libby Nelson of Vox.com.

It's really good to have you here.

Hi, Matt.

Hi.

You've done a couple episodes of weeds before.

So hopefully people will know you.

And what I wanted to start off by talking about is, uh, education, which is, uh, where you

have a lot of, uh, background as a journalist and which I would say did not play a big role

in the 2016 campaign.

That is, that is like a dramatic understatement.

There is this game in the education policy journalism community, which is small, but vibrant,

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