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The Politics Guys

Trump’s SOTU, Tariff Ruling Aftermath, The Pentagon’s AI Power Play

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Politics

4.4783 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Mike and Trey open with a breakdown of President Trump’s State of the Union address, focusing on the political strategy behind the speech and what it signals about governing priorities in a divided environment. Mike argues that the address was less about persuasion and more about consolidating partisan narratives, while Trey contends that the more revealing story was how much of the address leaned on grievance and spectacle Next, the guys turn to the Supreme Court’s ruling blocking the administration’s use of IEEPA to impose tariffs, unpacking the majority and dissenting arguments and what it means for executive power in trade policy. Mike makes a case for the dissenters' position, while Trey argues that the practical impact may be limited because the administration can pivot to other trade statutes and keep much of its tariff agenda alive. After that, they discuss the Pentagon’s threat to label Anthropic a “supply chain risk,” exploring the tension between national security control and private-sector AI development. Mike raises concerns about how broadly the designation could be used to pressure firms into compliance, while Trey highlights the practical question of how dependent the Defense Department and its contractors have already become on frontier AI systems. The guys close by reflecting on how these three stories—presidential messaging, judicial constraint, and AI leverage—illustrate an ongoing struggle over institutional power in an era of rapid technological and geopolitical change. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Michael Baranowski, an emeritus professor at North Kentucky University. I'm joined today by Oklahoma Christian University political scientist, Trey Orndorff.

1:07.9

Hey, Mike, it's great to be here with you. Yeah, it's a Friday afternoon.

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I'm used to kind of the Saturday morning thing. I'm not sure if that means I'm going to be

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worn out by the week or maybe better because sometimes in the morning I need a little while to get

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going. We'll find out here shortly. But before we do, I want to just briefly take a minute to suggest people check out another podcast, not aside from this one, but in addition to the politics guys.

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Actually, from a longtime listener supporter of the show, Eric McGuire's got a new show called Civics Over Politics. I'm a listener and a

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subscriber. It kept, Eric, kept me company while I was shoveling snow a couple of days ago. Now it's

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