Welcome to Media Roots Radio.

This is Abby Martin.

And this is Robbie Martin.

So with less than two weeks out from the presidential elections in the U.S.,

we wanted to have the founders of one of our favorite independent media outlets,

Status Koo, Jen Dyes, and Jordan Cheriton on the show.

They have been doing absolutely stellar work around the country during the pandemic

to get the people's coverage of issues that really matter on the ground.

Thank you so much, both of you, for coming on the show.

Thanks, thank you, guys. We're thrilled to be here.

So before we really get started here, I wanted a quick reaction from the both of you about the debate last night.

I thought it was really frustrating. Joe Biden, I felt like missed a lot of easy slams on Trump on pretty much every issue.

And while I was watching it, I just kept wishing that literally

anyone else from the primary was up there fighting Trump on these things. What did you think,

Jen, and let's go to you, Jordan, who won? Oh my gosh. I don't even know how to answer that

question because it really does seem like we're coming from two parallel universe,

maybe not even parallel universes, two completely different universes where Trump supporting

people think he absolutely won. Biden supporting people think he absolutely won. Gun to my head,

I think Biden won just because Trump didn't have his same feistiness.

Trump did land a couple good hits.

But Biden came across as the sane candidate, I guess,

with marginally acceptable answers for the general American public.

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