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Worldly

Trump's risky, pointless plan to undermine the Iran deal without tearing it up

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2017

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Jenn, Zack, and special guest Matt Yglesias talk about the Iran nuclear deal and the looming Sunday deadline for President Trump to recertify that Iran is in compliance with the terms of the deal. They discuss why, contrary to the advice of nearly all of his top advisers, Trump is probably not going to recertify, and what that means for the future of the landmark nuclear pact. On Elsewhere, the gang answers questions sent in by listeners on everything from the controversial independence referendum in Spain to their favorite foreign policy books. Jenn seizes control of the hosting chair in a coup, Zack debuts a brand new Groot impression, and Matt offers a scorching hot take on the irony of National Security Adviser HR McMaster appeasing Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Worldly, Vox's weekly guide to the most important stories in the world. I'm Jen Williams.

0:13.7

Yelchi's out this week reporting on a trip to Puerto Rico, but I'm here with Zach Beecham,

0:17.9

as well as our special guest, Maddie Glacius, whom most of you probably already know from our sister podcast the weeds.

0:24.0

Today we're going to be talking about the Iran nuclear deal which is facing a threat

0:28.2

this week. By Sunday October 15th President Trump is required by law to certify whether Iran is

0:34.5

complying with the terms of the nuclear deal, and if he doesn't, the deal's status

0:38.4

will be in serious jeopardy. And it sure sounds like he's not going to.

0:41.6

We cannot abide by an agreement if it provides cover

0:46.8

for the eventual construction of a nuclear program.

0:59.2

So that's Trump speaking at the United Nations less than a month ago. Notice the less than enthusiastic applause.

1:01.6

The scattering of awkward applause.

1:04.1

But if you ask most of Trump's top national security

1:07.0

aides, they say that Iran actually is complying with the deal

1:09.9

and they support the US staying in it.

1:12.0

Do you believe it's in our national security interests

1:14.0

at the present time to remain in the JCPOA?

1:17.4

That's a yes or no question.

1:25.0

Yes, Senator, I do. So that was Defense Secretary Jim Mattis,

1:29.0

awkwardly waiting several seconds

1:31.3

to answer a question from Senator Angus King about the Iran

1:34.9

deal at a Senate hearing last week. So they called it the JCPOA, that stands for the

1:40.9

joint comprehensive plan of action.

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