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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trump's Radical Reign (with Anne Applebaum)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

What do the ICE operations in Minneapolis reveal about a broader shift in the exercise of state power? This week, Pulitzer Prize–winning historian, The Atlantic staff writer, and Autocracy in America podcast host Anne Applebaum joins Preet Bharara to discuss why Minneapolis has galvanized people in a way few events have in the Trump era, and why our closest allies now say the word for this moment is “rupture.” Plus, Applebaum explains why she believes the better comparison for the second Trump administration isn’t conservatism—it’s Bolshevism. Then, Preet answers your questions about the FBI’s seizure of election ballots in Fulton County, Georgia, and the risks of refusing to pay taxes as a political protest. In the bonus for Insiders, Anne and Preet take a trip around the globe—from the war in Ukraine to Trump’s Greenland fixation to the uncertain future of Venezuela after Maduro. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:05.8

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:08.8

It's really important to understand that this is a radical administration. It is not a

0:13.1

conservative administration. And that's why it feels like it has nothing to do with conservatives

0:17.5

in the past.

0:22.6

That's Anne Applebaum.

0:24.4

She's a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, staff writer at The Atlantic, and host of the podcast Autocracy in America, now in its third season.

0:33.0

She's also the author of several books, including most recently Autocracy Inc., which

0:38.1

examines how modern autocracies cooperate to maintain power.

0:42.2

In recent weeks, Anne has focused on what's happening in Minneapolis, where ICE operations

0:46.9

have led to the killing of two U.S. citizens, Renee Good and Alex Preti.

0:51.8

She argues that what we're seeing isn't just about immigration enforcement,

0:55.1

but a broader shift in the exercise of state power. We talk about why Minneapolis has galvanized

1:00.2

people in a way few events have in the Trump era. What it means when our closest allies say the word

1:05.1

for this moment is rupture, and why Anne says the better comparison for the second Trump administration

1:09.8

isn't conservatism,

1:11.5

it's Bolshevism.

1:13.1

Then I'll answer your questions about the FBI's seizure of election ballots in Fulton County, Georgia,

1:18.0

and the risks of refusing to pay taxes as a political protest.

1:21.8

That's coming up. Stay tuned.

1:32.1

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1:38.1

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