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The Bill Press Pod

Trump's Project 2025: Up Close and Personal Chapter 10- How Attacking "Woke" Plays Out in Reality

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4.7601 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

While Bill is on a research and writing sabbatical for the next 2 weeks we decided it’s important to revisit the horrors we laid out in our Project 2025 podcast series, Trump's Project 2025: Up Close and Personal – and tie them to what’s actually happened so far. The first part of Chapter10 introduces the fictional character Dr. Joy Brewer, a dedicated researcher focused on studying cancer clusters affecting Black Americans. Joy learns from her colleague, Dr. Matthias Kunz, that all federal grants linked to race or gender are being canceled, jeopardizing her life’s work. Despite her attempts to advocate for her essential research, the political climate forces her into a corner where she must reconsider her direction. This part of the chapter closes with Joy’s resolute decision to remain true to her mission, suggesting a significant personal and professional loss amidst the disaster of Trump and his ideological allies.

In the second part of chapter, the fictional Webster "Web" Powers, addresses a packed ballroom in Washington, D.C., on a day he considers pivotal for his political ambitions. Web, who has transformed from a simple condo salesman into a powerful figure opposing what he sees as “woke” ideologies in education and government, relishes the fear among his audience—representatives from universities and research institutions. 

He recalls how his concerns about a lack of patriotic historical education for his children led him on a crusade to eliminate anti-American content from schools, which in turn propelled him into politics. After achieving success in Florida by banning critical race theory and related concepts from education, he is ready to extend his efforts nationally. During his speech, he unveils plans to remove references to race, gender identities, and diversity from federal policies and grants, branding the funding of such initiatives as “racism.” 

His announcement indicates that billions in federal research funds supporting various racial and gender-focused studies will now be terminated, causing dread among established academics who relied on these grants. Web takes pleasure in exerting control, sensing that his audience, once dismissive towards him, is now subservient to his newfound authority.

Ultimately, both narratives illustrate what happens when a Trump second term guided by Project 2025 destroys the lives and work of dedicated individuals committed to social justice and scientific integrity.

We'd like to thank all the artists who volunteered their time to make this episode:

Danai Gurira and Joel Hurt Jones who read the chapter and others who contributed character voices. 

Sound design by Jonathan Moser and Marilys Ernst. 

Trump's Project 2025: Up Close and Personal is written by David Pepper and produced by Pepper, Melissa Jo Peltier and Jay Feldman and is a production of Ovington Avenue Productions and The Bill Press Pod.

Today's Bill Press Pod is supported by The American Federation of Teachers. More information at AFT.org

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0:00.0

Hello, good friends. Welcome back to the Bill Press Pod. Well, as you know by now, while I'm on a research and writing sabbatical in Europe for the next couple of weeks, we're bringing back our Project 2025 series from last fall. Now, that series imagined what a second Trump

0:23.7

term guided by Project 2025 would look like. But what was prediction and warning then is now

0:32.5

reality, almost overnight. In this fresh look at Project 2025, joined again by David Pepper, former

0:41.0

chair of the Ohio Democratic Party, will connect the dots between Trump's original

0:46.5

2025 playbook and the destruction unfolding before our eyes. Why are we doing this? For three simple reasons. One, to expose Trump's agenda.

0:59.0

Two, to inspire resistance across the country. And three, to ensure that we all unite and work hard

1:07.5

to total reject Donald Trump and MAGA in 2026.

1:12.9

And now, Chapter 10, the dangerous consequences of the attack on equity and science.

1:19.5

This attack starts with that word, woke.

1:23.5

Yes, it's an insult that right-wing Republicans came up with to describe people and policies

1:29.5

which simply recognize that systemic racism still exists in America, that sexism still exists

1:36.9

in America, and that discrimination against LGBTQ plus people still exists in America.

1:44.4

For those anti-WoC crusaders, racism and sexism, simply don't exist.

1:51.1

And gender roles are fixed forever, men and women, once and for all.

1:54.7

That's it.

1:56.0

And any attempts to mitigate the effects of this kind of discrimination in education, in housing, in employment,

2:03.6

in health care, they label as woke.

2:07.6

Project 2025 and Donald Trump took aim at anyone at anything that tries to make life better

2:14.6

for these disadvantaged folks.

2:16.6

And right now, they're acting with frightening speed to destroy our vision of a fair and free

2:24.3

America and world.

2:27.5

Today's story begins with a scientist who spent years studying cancer clusters that disproportionately

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