Trump’s polarizing pick for acting DNI.
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Isaac Saul
4.7 • 818 Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
On Tuesday, President Donald Trump announced that he is naming housing official Bill Pulte to serve as acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) once Tulsi Gabbard steps down as director at the end of the month. Pulte is currently the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), an independent agency regulating federal mortgages, where he oversees Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banks. Gabbard is resigning to support her husband during his battle with a rare form of bone cancer, and the White House has not advanced a nominee to serve as Gabbard’s permanent replacement.
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| 0:00.0 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 0:08.4 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of our take. |
| 0:29.6 | I'm your host today, senior editor Will Kayback. It is the first Wednesday of June, and in addition to bringing the impending excitement of summer, |
| 0:38.9 | it's a great day to be a basketball fan. |
| 0:41.3 | And that's because the San Antonio Spurs are hosting the New York Knicks in game one of the NBA |
| 0:46.0 | finals tonight. |
| 0:47.3 | And somehow, a New York sports team contending for a championship is not the biggest story of the series. |
| 0:53.8 | And that's because the biggest topic, |
| 0:55.5 | and I'm talking both literally and metaphorically, is the Spurs 7'5-22-year-old French phenomenon |
| 1:02.5 | Victor Wembeyanma, who frankly is unlike any athlete that I've ever seen. I'm a fan of his for several |
| 1:09.1 | reasons. He has a kind of surreal grace on the court, |
| 1:12.3 | but he also is unabashedly vulnerable about expressing his emotions when he plays and his passion |
| 1:19.0 | for his craft of basketball. So I'm super excited for this series, and I think when Benyama makes |
| 1:24.9 | tuning in worthwhile, even if you're not a big sports or basketball fan. |
| 1:29.1 | The NBA is in a really unique moment right now, and Wembenyama is a big part of that. |
| 1:33.8 | So I'm very excited for that, and it should be a fun week and a half or so ahead. |
| 1:37.9 | All right, basketball excitement for me aside. |
| 1:40.7 | Let's get back into the political story of the day. |
| 1:43.4 | We're going to be waiting into |
| 1:44.9 | Bill Pulte's appointment as the acting director of national intelligence, which has raised |
| 1:50.5 | some eyebrows and then some across the political spectrum. Then we'll round out today's edition |
| 1:56.5 | with an update on Gaza, as well as some history on the U.S. intelligence community and how the |
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