Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day

from Donald Trump's highly anticipated meeting with Vladimir Putin to the rise of tube vigilantes

and why air conditioning has become a political hot potato.

And with me now, two of the coolest columnists around, and they are Manvine Rana. Hello, Manveen. Hello. Are you keeping cool in the heat? Relatively. I think I'm coping. Windows open. Ban on. Well, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's nice and air come in the office. And I was going to say, and Matthew Syed. But Matthew Syed is in the lift on the way up because we apparently got a bit stuck

in reception. So quickly, Manveen, before he gets here, what do you really think of the guy? I'm very sorry that we're, it's as if we're never in the same place at the same time. I know. So he's in the studio and for once I'm not.

People are going to think you're the same person.

No, stop, stop press.

Matthew Suss. I know. So he's in the studio and for once I'm not. People are going to think you're the same person.

No, stop, stop press.

Matthew Syed is walking into the studio, wearing shorts, no less.

Do you know, I don't know if I'm allowed to jump straight in here, but the only way I got in is, I've been at this newspaper now for, I probably shouldn't say how long or I might get sacked, but it's been a long time, but I've never had a pass to get in. And so security wouldn't let me in until Stig Abel came along and said, no, I think this person's legitimate. They were like, there's another guy in shorts. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, he was in long trousers, which surprised me, given how warm it is, did I think.

Just before you got here, I was asking, Manvim, what she thought of you? What do you think she said? Manveen, have we ever been in the studio together? I don't think you've seen the level of chemistry that there is when I'm in the flesh. and I think we'd get on brilliantly if you were here now.

We'd disagree less, although we're talking about migraine.

The topic we normally disagree about a lot. I think it's coming up at some stage. Look, we will absolutely get. In fact, we've got a lot to cover. So let's dive on in. So before we do, Manvina, I assume that because you're not here because you're down the line. Have you got cakes all to yourself this morning? I have zero cakes You're missing nothing I'm missing nothing I had no reason to bake

No the line. Have you got cakes all to yourself this morning? I have zero cakes. You're missing nothing.

Oh dear. Well, that's, um, well, that's, um, I had no reason to bake. Oh, dear. I'll bring them in next week. It's nice to know I'm your reason to bake. Yeah, well, I went, I went through a period. I don't know if we've discussed it on the program of trying to, I'm a big cake fan. Yeah. And I don't know if you've read these books on longevity and health.

I'd imagine they're quite anti-cake.

They're anti-cake.

Yeah.

Yeah. And I don't know if you've read these books on longevity and health.

I'd imagine they're quite anti-cake.

They're anti-cake, yeah, unsurprisingly, but, you know, doing a lot of weight training,

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