Trump's Plan for Global AI Dominance | NonZero World feat. Robert Wright
Robert Wright's Nonzero
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🗓️ 26 July 2025
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0:30 Trump’s AI Action plan 4:00 The contradictions inherent to Trump's plan 6:25 How Trump’s anti-globalism undermines his AI goals 10:52 Anthropic’s leaked memo: Ideals vs Persian Gulf cash 13:06 Bob: Dario Amodei is the true AI ideologue 17:17 How AI “safety” became a hawkish movement 18:18 Why true objectivity in LLMs is a fantasy 22:58 A Palantir exec dives into the movie business 25:16 Is AI surgery around the corner? 33:06 Why the Gaza ceasefire talks are collapsing—again 35:36 Biden and Trump's allergy to using US leverage
Recorded July 25, 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Non-Zero World. |
| 0:04.1 | I'm your host, Connor Eccles. |
| 0:08.6 | Each week, I break down the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy and other global news, |
| 0:14.3 | and I interview a leading expert or activist. |
| 0:17.0 | To gain access to full-length episodes and other exclusive content, |
| 0:27.1 | become an NZN member today at Robert Wright's Non-Zero Newsletter at NONZero.org. |
| 0:31.1 | Hey, Bob, how you doing? |
| 0:33.0 | I'm good, Connor. How are you? |
| 1:12.9 | I'm pretty good. Why don't I go ahead and introduce us? I am Connor Eccles, the managing editor of the non-zero podcast and the host of this, or the managing editor of non-zero and the host of this edition of the non-zero podcast, which we call non-zero world. Talk about all of the biggest events happening in international politics, international affairs. You are, of course, Robert Wright, the editor-in-chief of Non Zero and the regular host of this podcast. And today we're going to be talking about everything that we have included, not probably not quite everything, but many of the topics that we included in this week's Earthling, the Friday edition of the non-zero newsletter. That's a bit of a mouthful, but I promise it's lots of interesting stuff. We've got |
| 1:17.4 | Palantir getting into the movie game. We've got a lot of big news on AI. We've got some |
| 1:25.1 | major news around ceasefire in Gaza, not positive news to be sure, but news nonetheless. |
| 1:30.9 | And so we're going to talk about a lot of that. But I think the best place for us to start off when we've got you on the podcast, Bob, is with AI, of course. |
| 1:39.6 | And I'm kind of curious to get your take. You know, I mean, the Trump administration rolled out quite an interesting thing this week. |
| 1:46.7 | It launched its AI action plan. |
| 1:49.1 | This is probably its most prominent thing to date. |
| 1:51.8 | Are you, are you thrilled? |
| 1:52.9 | Do you feel the action rising in you? |
| 1:56.1 | That's exactly the way we described the feeling, Connor. |
| 1:58.4 | Thank you for saving me the trouble of formulating that thought. Yeah, the, so this has been taken as a pretty big deal in the, in the |
| 2:07.0 | AI community, in the community of AI watchers. This is the fullest articulation of the administration's |
| 2:14.0 | vision for artificial intelligence. Let me quote from the plan. The aim, |
| 2:19.8 | according to the plan, is to, quote, achieve global dominance in artificial intelligence. |
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