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The Daily Beast Podcast

Trump’s People Have Plot Against the Voters: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to examine the looming legal battlefield of Trump’s 2026 strategy, where every move is filtered through lawyers and litigation. As the White House braces for the possibility of losing both the House and Senate, Wolff reveals the unraveling logic guiding a president who cannot course-correct, while aides scramble to protect their careers. From redistricting schemes to potential Supreme Court battles over voting rights, this episode shows how Trumpworld is preparing for an election fought not just at the polls—but in the courts. Joanna asks the central question: Can anything stop this legal juggernaut?

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0:00.0

if they lose the election, if they lose in 2026, they are finished, finished politically,

0:06.2

but, you know, so much else. And I had a conversation yesterday with a White House person. And this person

0:15.9

expressed alarm. And I think reflected the alarm that went through the White House on Tuesday night.

0:27.4

They're up against it. They're candidate. Their reason for being cannot course correct.

0:33.6

They're heading into disaster.

0:36.9

Michael. Michael.

0:38.1

Joanna.

0:39.1

What are you hearing?

0:40.0

I think that this is an interesting moment, which we should put a pin in.

0:47.3

It really, for one thing, it begins this.

0:51.9

We've just come through one year, this, this horrendous and shattering year,

0:58.6

and now we enter this other year, which will be, which is really going to be all about the midterms.

1:06.2

And it's officially, kind of begins now. And I had a conversation yesterday with a White House person.

1:17.9

And that was revealing.

1:21.2

I mean, this person expressed alarm, and I think reflected the alarm that went through the White House on Tuesday night.

1:34.3

They're up against it, and they may have known that before, but this became crystal clear on Tuesday night.

1:44.1

And it's not just that this election was bad for them,

1:49.3

but the understanding that Trump, their standard bearer, their candidate,

1:57.0

their reason for being, cannot course correct.

2:01.6

Cannot course correct.

2:03.1

Will not course correct.

2:05.5

Doesn't even, I think, understand the concept of a course correction.

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