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Today, Explained

Trump's other big breakup

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.49.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

President Trump recently blew up his alliance with the conservative legal group that helped him remake the judiciary. But the group’s leader is already moving on. This episode was produced by Gabrielle Berbey and Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and Victoria Chamberlin, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Leonard Leo, co-chairman of the Federalist Society board of directors. Photo by Nordin Catic/Getty Images for The Cambridge Union. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Breakup-wise, all the attention is on Donald and Elon.

0:04.0

I mean, my mind is a storm.

0:06.0

But it's not Trump's only breakup of note.

0:08.0

There's also his breakup with the Federalist Society, or as it's known to its friends, Fed Sock.

0:14.0

We turn now to Truth Social.

0:16.0

Truth Social.

0:20.0

The U.S. Court of International Trade incredibly ruled against the United States of America

0:24.7

on desperately needed tariffs. But I was new to Washington, and it was suggested that I used

0:30.9

the Federalist Society as a recommending source on judges. I did so openly and freely, but then realized

0:35.6

that they were under the thumb of a real sleaze bag named Leonard Leo, a bad person who, in his own way, probably hates America

0:42.0

and obviously has his own separate ambitions.

0:45.6

If allowed to stand, this would completely destroy presidential power.

0:49.9

The president of the United States must be allowed to protect America against those that

0:53.2

are doing it economic and financial harm.

0:55.1

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