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Time is the greatest gift we can give and receive.

As we turn the clocks back this fall, Bristol-Myers Squibb is recognizing oncologists who help give patients something extraordinary.

More time.

The Time Back campaign celebrates those everyday heroes who are working

tirelessly in the pursuit of potentially helping get patients more time to experience key

moments, like seeing a child learn to ride a bike or a long-awaited vacation. As we turn back our

clocks, let's pause to thank the doctors who make a difference

every day. Discover more about the time back campaign and join Bristol-Myers Squibb in celebrating

the physicians who give the gift of more time at bMS.com slash time back.

Thank you. BMS.com slash time back. Now he's coming in, and I think he's really sensing something he didn't see before,

which is his own mortality, and he wants to change the world, not just be the center of attention.

That's why he's building a, you know, 90,000 square foot ballroom at the White House.

That's why he's desperate to get the Nobel Peace Prize.

That's why he's transforming much of the rest of the White House.

He wants people to confront the fact that he's there and the world is not going to be the same because he was there.

Hi, everyone. I'm Katie Couric, and this is is not going to be the same because he was there. Hi, everyone.

I'm Katie Couric, and this is next question.

My guest today, Jonathan Carl, is ABC News Chief Washington correspondent and co-anchor of this week.

He has covered every president since Bill Clinton, but none more closely than the current administration.

His latest book, his fourth, on Donald Trump, is called Retribution, Donald Trump in the

campaign that changed America.

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