Trump's New World Order
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. |
| 0:13.6 | Good morning, everyone. |
| 0:15.0 | David Sanger is with us. |
| 0:16.8 | He is the White House and National Security correspondent for the New York Times, which these days includes everything from the high-stakes negotiations that are moving fast this week for the war in Ukraine to what one of his articles calls tariffs by whim to Trump's attempts to negotiate with Hamas and with Iran. |
| 0:35.9 | He also, David is the author of books, including his most |
| 0:39.4 | recent, New Cold Wars, China's rise, Russia's invasion, and America's struggle to defend the |
| 0:46.5 | West. We'll talk about those Ukraine developments and more in this segment, including |
| 0:51.4 | David Sanger's big picture article this week called Power Money |
| 0:55.6 | Territory, how Trump shook the world in 50 days. I also want to get his take on Secretary |
| 1:01.5 | of State Marco Rubio declaring Tuesday or Monday that the downsizing of U.S. aid is complete, |
| 1:09.1 | USAID, and they have eliminated about 5,000 of its foreign aid programs |
| 1:14.8 | and kept around 1,000. There's a time story this week with the headline, Tuberculosis Resurgent |
| 1:22.2 | as Trump funding cut disrupts treatment globally. David, always good to have you on. Welcome back to WNYC. |
| 1:30.3 | Brian, it's great to be back with you. Let's start here. What's going on with Ukraine? |
| 1:35.8 | Zelenskyy accepted a USC's fire proposal, and they're waiting for Putin to accept or reject, |
| 1:41.2 | is what I can see. Can you tell where that's going? |
| 1:51.6 | Well, the ball is now completely in Vladimir Putin's court. If you listened to what his aides have said over the past month or two, they didn't want a short-term agreement. |
| 1:58.0 | They want an agreement in which there are no European peacekeepers or |
| 2:03.8 | some kind of a rapid response group in Ukraine in case there were violations. They want a commitment |
| 2:11.3 | that Ukraine will never join NATO. So in other words, they want to go to all of the issues that would be part of a |
| 2:19.6 | allegedly final settlement. And of course, Ukrainians would need some kind of security |
| 2:27.1 | assurances to make sure that the Russians don't simply use the time to go rebuild their |
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