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Stay Tuned with Preet

Trump’s Misuse of History (with Heather Cox Richardson & Joanne Freeman)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

What happens when a U.S. president doesn’t know his history? Historians Heather Cox Richardson and Joanne Freeman join Preet to discuss the history of due process, the misuse of historical events for political messaging, and how Trump misunderstood the Declaration of Independence. And check out Preet’s live conversation with Heather and Joanne on Substack. Plus, Preet answers questions about broadcasting oral arguments at SCOTUS and using AI in the courtroom. Join the Insider community to stay informed without the hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Sign up on our website, or find us on Substack. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to the Stay Tuned Youtube channel and subscribe. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at [email protected], or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:05.9

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:08.0

In uncertain times, when it's difficult to look ahead, it can be grounding to look back.

0:14.0

And there's no one better to peer into the past with than two of the country's foremost historians, Heather Cox Richardson and Joanne Freeman.

0:21.8

Heather teaches history at Boston College and pens the widely read newsletter, letters from an American.

0:27.7

Joanne teaches history and American studies at Yale.

0:30.5

Together, they co-hosted Cafe's History Podcast now and then.

0:34.7

We talk about the history of due process, the misuse of historical events for political

0:38.9

messaging, and Trump's strange take on the Declaration of Independence. Then I'll answer your

0:44.4

questions about allowing cameras in the Supreme Court and using AI in court. That's coming up. Stay

0:51.1

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