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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Trump's Military Strikes On Alleged Venezuelan Cartel Ships

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

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🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration's recent lethal strikes on purported drug boats in Venezuela drew widespread condemnation from experts in international law.

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0:00.0

This is Brian Lair's Daily Politics podcast from WNYC Studios. It's Wednesday, September 17th.

0:15.4

I'm Bridget Bergen sitting in for Brian today. Earlier this month, President Trump went public with dramatic video, a U.S.

0:23.8

strike blowing up a boat in the Caribbean. He said the people on board were Venezuelan

0:28.5

narco-terrorists and claimed the operation saved American lives. He did not provide the details,

0:35.3

like who those 11 people actually were, what evidence tied

0:38.6

them to drugs or crime, or what legal authority he was relying on.

0:43.7

This strike didn't take place in a declared war zone.

0:46.5

It wasn't cleared with Congress.

0:48.1

And it comes at a time when the administration has been casting violent criminals in Latin

0:52.3

America as the next front in what it calls a global war on terror.

0:57.4

On Monday, the U.S. military struck a second boat, killing three more people.

1:02.1

So what does international law say about sinking a vessel in international waters?

1:07.0

How much latitude does a U.S. president have to take this kind of action and what precedent

1:12.0

might it said if other countries follow suit? Joining us is Brian Funukin, senior advisor at the

1:18.3

International Crisis Group and a non-resident senior fellow at NYU Laws, Reese Center on Law and

1:24.3

Security. He's a national security lawyer who's been studying U.S. uses of

1:28.4

force overseas for years. Hey, Brian, welcome to WNYC. Good morning. Pleasure to join you. And listeners,

1:36.6

we'd like to hear from you. Should the U.S. military be targeting suspected drug traffickers

1:41.8

overseas? Or is that an overreach that risks drawing us into new

1:45.6

conflicts? The number 212-433-W-N-YC, that's 212-433-9-6-92, you can call or text.

1:55.4

Brian, for people who haven't been following this as closely, can you walk us through what the

2:00.0

administration says happened

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