This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayor Copa podcast.

As the big light continues its ceaseless march across America, Trump should take special

pride in the fact that our terrorist in chief has unleashed a wave of violence and physical

intimidation unprecedented in American politics.

If Trump's goal was to divide us as a nation and make us literally fear one another, this

too he has achieved.

The idea that all of these crazy conspiracy theories and the sort of, I guess it is the

crazy that you look at or that we hear, they're actually acting under a rational political

plan being propagated by the GOP and Trump, which is essentially the votes or illegitimate.

We wanted to pride people of votes.

And until we see it as politics supported by violence, which is terrorism, we won't be

able to solve this problem.

This is not about bipartisanship.

This is about violence.

It's about an entire party endorsing and embracing violence for political gain.

We've never seen anything like that so the threat environment is going to be higher.

The description of Trump as a fucking terrorist leader is neither metaphor nor hyperbole.

It is the assessment of veteran national security experts.

Some of those experts say, adopted a method known as stochastic terrorism, a process of

incitement where the instigator provokes extremist violence under the guise of plausible deniability.

Although the exact location, timing and source of the violence may not be predictable, its

occurrence is all but inevitable.

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