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Trump’s Long Game and Miles Taylor’s Warning

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Mike revisits an old worry: Trump’s policies are built for payoffs far beyond his term—and that’s a problem for a man who won’t share credit. From tariffs to civil service purges, the risks linger. To set the stage, we go back to a 2018 interview with Miles Taylor, once “Anonymous,” whose warnings still resonate as he returns with his new book Blowback.

Produced by Corey Wara


Production Coordinator Ashley Khan


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Mike. It's a Saturday. It's a Saturday show. I should have had another word. It's a Saturday show. Yay. We do one from the vault and one from the week. And the one from the week is what I started the show. Just a little bit of a free form worry. Wanted to put my marker down saying there was like, I don't know, 35, 40% chance that this Trump guy might not just shuffle off the stage if he doesn't first do that same verb via the mortal coil.

0:30.3

But you just look at all these initiatives, all these plans, plans that won't come to fruition for a few years. And you ask yourself, is he the kind of

0:39.4

guy to let someone else get the credit or just let the plans expire based on a rival,

0:47.0

beating him all fair and square. Anyway, I put my thoughts together. You know who else has been

0:51.3

having these thoughts and these worries? Well, his name is anonymous or was back in 2018. And then we booked him on the show. He's a guy named Miles Taylor. And I'm not here to give you homework, but he will be coming on the show in the next week or two. I know this because I taped the interview already. A little peek behind the curtain. I don't like when they say under the

1:11.4

kimono. I think it's wrong. I think it's both lascivious and strangely a little ethnically

1:16.9

insensitive. I can't explain why. But that was the peak behind the very Western, very non-gendered

1:25.6

curtain that we already taped an interview with Miles Taylor, a new interview

1:30.9

based on his new worries and his newly ruined life. But I'm going to play you an old interview

1:37.6

we did from years ago when he was experiencing a newly ruined life having come out as anonymous. Turns out that going up against

1:46.6

Trump when you're trying to live and work in Washington, D.C., is not the growth industry

1:52.4

we had thought. I don't know. Maybe if you've got a substack or if you're a former Washington

1:58.6

Post person claiming martyrdom, which may or may not be true,

2:02.9

maybe they're in good stead, but not poor Miles Taylor.

2:05.9

So an old interview with him, maybe to get you oriented for the interview, we're going to air soon,

2:10.7

and some general worries about this Trump guy, not entirely on the up and up.

2:15.5

There's a chance.

2:16.4

I'm saying there's a chance.

2:28.1

You know what I'm worried about as concerns Donald Trump?

2:32.6

Well, you know, besides the venality, the lawlessness, the total disregard for the Constitution, really not even understanding it or knowing it exists.

2:35.9

It's this.

2:37.1

Many of his plans have a time frame for implementation far beyond the three more years, three

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