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🗓️ 16 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Preet and I are out with a new episode of The Insider podcast. |
| 0:06.7 | We discuss updates related to New York Attorney General Letitia James, the National Guard in Los Angeles, and the Venezuela Boat Strikes. |
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| 0:48.6 | Our country has been doing a lot of things that not everyone agrees with and it's causing a lot |
| 0:53.2 | of controversy. |
| 1:01.4 | And that is the nation state of Venezuela, where the question of regime change arises, |
| 1:09.9 | the question of sort of teasing into war arises, due process with respect to the missiles being shot at these various boats, |
| 1:12.2 | the second strike that appears to have killed two apparent survivors of a boat strike back in September, |
| 1:19.0 | all sorts of issues. |
| 1:20.0 | And now we have the seizure by our government of an oil tanker. |
| 1:25.7 | These are all interesting things as a matter of geopolitics, domestic politics, |
| 1:31.9 | foreign relations, but they are also interesting, Joyce, ask questions of law. They are. |
| 1:37.5 | Why do we take the tanker and was that lawful? Yeah, I mean, you know, it starts with the assertion |
| 1:43.5 | by the administration that what has long been the business of law enforcement and of drug intervention, frequently using the Coast Guard, right, because typically the FBI doesn't have a lot of boats on the water. |
| 1:55.3 | But anyhow, what's typically drug interdiction treated in the criminal courts, they've tried to convert that into war, |
| 2:04.6 | into what this administration calls a non-international armed conflict. And the administration |
| 2:10.1 | went to the Office of Legal Counsel and got an order that purported to cover the legality |
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