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The NPR Politics Podcast

Trump's Indictment Could Lock Up Primary, But Lock Out Presidency

The NPR Politics Podcast

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4.425.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

A new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll shows that after Donald Trump's historic indictment, 83 percent of Republicans think he should stay in the race — suggesting he could cruise to a decisive primary win in the crowded Republican field. But it's what comes next that should worry him: most folks outside of his base of Republican base are concerned about his behavior.

And the Supreme Court leaves the Indian Child Welfare Act intact.

This episode: political correspondent Susan Davis, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro, and legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Melissa from Canapalus, North Carolina. I just finished watering my bagonias, zineas, hydrangeas,

0:08.0

gardenias,

0:09.0

budlias, and roses. This podcast was recorded at 11.50 a.m. on Friday, June 16th.

0:15.6

Things may have changed by the time you hear this,

0:17.6

but I will still be admiring the beauty and color of my summer flower beds. Okay, here's the show.

0:22.9

I relate to this. My hydrangea bush looks amazing right now and it brings me a lot of joy.

0:30.6

I spent a lot of years in North Carolina before I came up to DC and the gardens are beautiful.

0:35.3

I am sure that all of those flowers are for dad this weekend. Oh, absolutely.

0:40.3

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast and Susan Davis. I cover politics.

0:44.2

I'm Franco Adonia as I cover the White House and I'm Dominican Montenegro,

0:47.6

Senior Political Editor and Correspondent. And it's really hard to win the White House.

0:52.4

And part of that reason is how America elects its presidents.

0:55.8

First, a candidate has to win a nomination by securing enough of the party support,

1:00.8

usually driven by the most partisan base voter on the left and right.

1:04.6

And then they have to turn around and win a general election, which is usually decided by a small fraction of swing voters who reside

1:12.2

somewhere in the middle. And in the latest NPR PBS NewsHour Maris poll,

1:16.5

highlights just how complicated that path could be if former President Trump, the current frontrunner,

1:22.1

and the Republican primary ultimately wins the nomination.

1:25.7

But first, a minute ago, let's talk about the indictment and the reaction to it.

1:29.3

In some ways, it's actually been very good for Donald Trump.

1:33.0

Yeah, in a lot of ways. And you know, when you look at the body language of the campaign,

1:36.2

and when you talk to Republican strategists, this is what they said would happen.

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